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Topic: Killing people just because they are tamil? lets see about it!
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 09:44 PM
 
Were 50 000 JVP killed because they were Thamils. NO SIR! They were singhalese and government showed no difference.Killed them, tortured them, did all you could do to them. I am against all that violance,but what i am more against is your putting a racial lable over the issues. >What about Krishanthy? What about the >PRISON massacre in 2000? Did governemnt support it ? The difference between 1983 and other happenings because goverment helped 1983, but in other cases. Its not SO! And many of criminals were punished, given death punishment for some by the supreme court and in a news paper i saw few of them crying like babies for their life. Thats the difference!
THought of highlighting this issue to prevent further crap from LTTE fans.
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 09:55 PM
Myna, Please read this! |
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Myna
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posted October 17, 2004 10:39 PM
Jughead, if 50000 JVP insurgents were killed, and the Sinhalese decided to look the other way, it's their perogative. We Tamils don't take that kind of crap!Since Independence, Sinhalese leaders, one after another used race as means to win votes. They knew the numbers, they knew what the majority wanted to hear. So they played along. Instead of trying to unite the country, and make EVERYBODY feel like a Sri Lankan, they took the easy way out. They took away the citizenship of many Tamils from the estates. They chased us away from our homes, and gave it to Sinhalese. They made our language, which we've been speaking for ages, be invalid. When we tried to speak to them about it, they attacked us. When we finally asked to separate, they tried to burn us. When we picked up weapons, they bombed us. They banned, TULF, which was voted into power by the people of Eelam to TALK to the government about separation. They arrested us, tortured us, killed us and raped us. We didn't withstand all that for nothing. They were the ones who originally made us feel so very non-Sri lankan. Now when we claim we are not Sri Lankans, they whine that there is no such thing as Eelam, that we are in fact Sri Lankans. Go Figure! In anycase, it took us about 30 years to get Tamil to be recognized as an official language. At that rate, I would say, we have another 9 years or so to get Eelam!  In anycase, I find it interesting that you refuse to believe that after 1983 there was no state sponsored killings of Tamils. What about all those mass graves? What about Nagarkovil? If SLA was responsible for them, wasn't it state sponsored? Of the 5 people accused in the prison massacre, 2 were police officers. Aren't they part of the government? Isn't their job to serve and protect? In any case, one of the police officers has been acuitted. Wonder how long it would be before the others are freed! |
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 10:49 PM
>Jughead, if 50000 JVP insurgents were >killed, and the Sinhalese decided to look >the other way, it's their perogative. We >Tamils don't take that kind of crap!Thats because your bloody ego, i have no problems with your ego as long as it doesnt contribute to kill thamils. But it do. Look at JVP today, if they were fighting, they would had been fully gone, today they are an important part of the government!! It didnt hurt them to come to give up the arms , did it ?
>Since Independence, Sinhalese leaders, one >after another used race as means to win >votes.
I agree that singhalese leaders were bad, but your jaffna leaders were not any better. You heard what TNA Gajenra said during a tamil discussion in Channel Eye, ceylon, he said that amirthaligam's death was justified because he was having double standards in being against the war and stirring up the nationalism of jaffna people ???? You ever heard of this ? |
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 10:51 PM
You being a LTTE fan has NO RIGHT WHAT SO EVER to speak on the TULF!If you want to support the TULF, come to the position of Mr. Sanagaree. Did you read his letter to thambi ? And also you in jaffna does not have any right to speak about estate thamils whom your grand parents even refused to give a bit of water from the house! |
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 10:53 PM
>In anycase, I find it interesting that you >refuse to believe that after 1983 there was >no state sponsored killings of Tamils. What >about all those mass graves? What about >Nagarkovil? If SLA was responsible for >them, wasn't it state sponsored? Is Iraqi abuses state sponsored ?? Or the aftermath results of a war ? THose things happen everywhere in the war. The war must be stopped and LTTE leaders must be destroyed! Tamils should be given a federal state. |
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 10:55 PM
>Wonder how long it would be before the >others are freed!Dont worry, gov will try their best to teach those crazy police people a lesson atleast as an international cover up . So dont worry about that sis . But did the LTTE have anything as such when they killed Tamil, Muslim, Singhala people under them ? NO?? They instead make statues of the criminals such as victor!
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jughead
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posted October 17, 2004 10:57 PM
>In anycase, it took us about 30 years to >get Tamil to be recognized as an official >languageThats because India helped us, and for your LTTE Eelam, your canadian she males can cry like anything but no results other than thamil people dying here. With out India, Eelam is impossible and its high time you understand that.
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chezhia
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posted October 17, 2004 11:15 PM
>With out India, Eelam is impossible and its high time you understand that.>Well said Jughead. LTTE propaganda actually alters people's mind. That's why LTTE supporters fail to see the reality. THEY are Living in a Clinical condition known as "Paranoid Schizophrenia with Self induced illusions". I really mean it. Even Schindler with Hitler's army admitted same syndrome among NAZI army.
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Myna
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posted October 17, 2004 11:39 PM
Jughead, I supported the TULF of '70s, when they won on a platform to free Eelam. I don't agree with what they are now. They are basically voiceless. Why should I put my trust on somebody who can only raise his voice loud enough to be heard when he speaks out against LTTE? I would support any group that tries to make it without putting down LTTE. They don't have to agree with LTTE, or work for LTTE, but I want to know that they can speak to GoSL without having to resort to being anti-LTTE. Unfortunately, neither TULF nor EPDP is capable of that.So, what do part of my comment on JVP do you find to be arrogant? If you don't want to do anything about being opressed, then really it's your perogative, but I refuse to keep quiet. It's really sad that you are not willing to do anything when your fellow Tamils are killed for being Tamil! Another thing, JVP, was killed because they revolted against the government. Tamils were killed, because they were Tamils. Just because JVP members were killed does'nt change the fact that Tamils were killed for being Tamils! Anyways, I sense a lot of hatred towards Tamils in Canada from you, Jughead. Sorry, no amount of hatred, no amount of name calling is going to take our support away from LTTE. If you want us to support EPDP, ask them to stop sucking up to the government so much. If they start working for the Tamils instead of the government, maybe we might actually start supporting you. After all, very many Tamils support the LTTE because we feel that LTTE is the only group capable of representing us! LTTE is also the only group that is not working for other foreign countries, like India! Yes, Indians must really hate LTTE for that. But which is more important? Keeping Indians happy, or achieving Eelam? You are right, Tamil was made an official language because of India. This begs the question, what prompted India's intervention in SL at that time? Wasn't it LTTE? In anycase, we had India to intervene and make Tamil an official language in 1987. PERHAPS, we have Norway now to intervene, and grant us Eelam or a federal structure? |
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chezhia
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posted October 17, 2004 11:52 PM
NORWAY GOING TO GIVE YOU SEPERATE BLAH BLAH.. LOL LOL LOL What a Wishful thinking. !!!FYI, Sri lanka is a South Asian country and its NOT a Scandinavian Country. So, In south Asia, everything has to route through India. Even Eric Solheim has to purchase tickets New Delhi very often and has to update our leaders. WAKE UP GUYS.. TRY to get out of the propaganda and listen to other news TOO.. [This message has been edited by chezhia (edited October 17, 2004).] |
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Myna
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posted October 18, 2004 12:03 AM
I find it funny that you expect LTTE (which you consider to be a Terrorist organization) to act democratically, but is accepting when an 'ELECTED' Government behaves undemocratic. |
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Myna
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posted October 18, 2004 12:28 AM
Chezhia, now I understand why Pakistan gives India so much troubles!If you really want to believe that everything in South Asia has to be done with India's blessing, so be it. I did use PERHAPS in my statement, I guess being in the clouds and all that you missed it. I wonder what you guys would say if US or China decides to Intervene? China has a reason too. India does support Dalai Lama regarding Tibet! |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 12:55 AM
Norway going to give an eelam, OH BOY!Western capitalist doing such a deed! You guys are livng in dream world. Do you know what norway dudes usually visit india to get the accent of Indian leaders for the peace talks ? Norway understand the Indian role too. Norway will make an eternal enemy in India for this petty LTTE!! You think they would go for it ? I dont think so.
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 12:58 AM
>I wonder what you guys would say if US or >China decides to Intervene? China has better things to do pal! And USA helping an Eelam, sigh!!!! What a wishful thinking, they made complete fools of TNA MP's and you still dont have a shame going behind the USA tail ?
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:06 AM
>Jughead, I supported the TULF of '70s, when >they won on a platform to free Eelam. I >don't agree with what they are now. They >are basically voiceless.What do you support ? Voiceless saints of voracious bastards ?
>I would support any group that tries to >make it without putting down LTTE.
Because your mind is blinded by the LTTE, you dont have any way of thinking other than that, whatever LTTE do, you will find a justification and make fools of your self. >They don't have to agree with LTTE, or work >for LTTE, but I want to know that they can >speak to GoSL without having to resort to >being anti-LTTE. WHy do you accept people to stop pointing out LTTE's atrocities as well as army atrocities, did you read sangaree's letter, its a good one i tell you! >So, what do part of my comment on JVP do >you find to be arrogant? Dont be a fool, who said its being arrogant, I said about your big ego. Your nationalistic spirit is blinding your vision, i was like that too but not anymore. You want an Eelam at any cost, even if it kills all the thamil people living in ceylon.. Now thats EGO, your ego is bad but not realy bad as some people here who has gone to the extremes saying all stuff on eastern tamils etc. >If you don't want to do anything about >being opressed, then really it's your >perogative, but I refuse to keep quiet. THats the same thing i would say. We refuse to keep silent to LTTE when they kill our brave souls in the east, yet you expect not to take an anti-LTTE stance ? You are being hypocritical, isnt it ? Only shouting against the GOSL bad things are correct but pointing the atrocities by the LTTE to the eastern people is BAD? HUH???
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:08 AM
You have digress from the initial argument of killing people for just being thamil, because JVP incidents prove that people dont get killed for being thamils but for going against the gov.Can you tell me why exactly did LTTE kill 500 unarm policemen during the peace process very premadasa was trying for some solution ????? Dont tell me EPDP did it because its just going to make everybody laugh |
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chezhia
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posted October 18, 2004 01:10 AM
Pakistan gave us trouble ... LOL..BUT WE GAVE BANGLADESH TO THE WORLD AFTER CARVING OUT MORE THAN 50% of pakistan. Every WAR that we had with Pakistan, they LOST LAND. SO think myna.. |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:12 AM
>Another thing, JVP, was killed because they >revolted against the government. Tamils >were killed, because they were Tamils. Just >because JVP members were killed does'nt >change the fact that Tamils were killed for >being Tamils!NO WAY, this logic is silly! JVP was killed because they went against the Gov and LTTE was killed for going against the gov as well. But sadly, many BYSTANDERS killed, do you know that most killed because of JVP crisis were innocent people ???? So you mean to say they got killed for being singhalese, thats stupid. Same as that, many bystanders got killed during the Eelam war and LTTE is who started after killing 500 unarmed policemen of the governemnt WHILE the peace process. bottom line, during a military struggle, all bad things happen so thats why we should not support such acts when a solution is there.
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:15 AM
>Anyways, I sense a lot of hatred towards >Tamils in Canada from you, Jughead. Sorry, >no amount of hatred, no amount of name >calling is going to take our support away >from LTTE. I dont just hate you, i hate even my self the days i supported the LTTE with my salary.. I will never forgive my self for that crime. I will do my best to work for children in east and to safegaurd their future from the LTTE! The bottom line is, you guys are indirectly helping LTTE to kill thamils. |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:16 AM
>In anycase, we had India to intervene and >make Tamil an official language in 1987. >PERHAPS, we have Norway now to intervene, >and grant us Eelam or a federal structure?Federal structure is good, but not giving the power to the LTTE to be the sole controller of thamil people.
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:20 AM
>If you want us to support EPDP, ask them to >stop sucking up to the government so muchEPDP will not suck up like you all sucking up to prabhakaran. Only EPDP has no choice for protection than the governement after LTTE and Premadasa virtually destroyed all their structure!!! And EPDP can not start any good project for people in the east since LTTE will come and kill its members and screw the whole thing up.. But people in the east will not be needing even the EPDP now,they will rally around Karuna Annai's party for a proper solution for east. To free our selves from jaffna hegenomy! SAY, Please ask your amma to but a bomb around her breast to bomb colombo, dont ask our sisters to do the dirty job for you and serve your big ego! Please let me know your mothers response to this matter. |
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chezhia
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posted October 18, 2004 01:22 AM
U.S and China will never Inetrvene in our affairs.. This shows How self centered you are.!! You have to understand the GLOBAL POWER BALANCE AS OF 2004. Don't keep on living in 1983. Come on !!! Grow Up !!Why Eric Solheim (Norway Interlocutor) has to come to NEW DELHI and Update our leaders very frequently.. Why Ranil wicramasinghe and Chandrika kumrathunga has to visit both New Delhi and Chennai Frequently. Why After Chandrika visited New Delhi she had to take out the crucial ministries including "Defence" from Ranil..Think Myna..Think...Singhalese learnt the lessons and NOW they are acting smart. They use our $200 million credit line to buy OPVs (Offshore Patrol vehicles) and Choppers. Palaly airfiled is going to be Renewed very soon. INS gorshkov is going to stationed in trinconamalee soon. Why in 1997-2000 LTTE has to back off from outskirts of Jaffna mysteriously without any Noise after a single phone call from Jyodindranath Dixit to Kilinochi.. THINK MYNA THINK... |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:23 AM
>After all, very many Tamils support the >LTTE because we feel that LTTE is the only >group capable of representing usI dont think people in the east agree with you since i have lived with them for a long time. Only your egoestic folks in canada who wants your ego served even at the cost of the deaths of all people in ceylon. And many youth fooled in the north by the LTTE. we feel sorry for our brothers in the north who are serving LTTE, sorry but we in east has no way to protect our selves from LTTE so we are bound to act against you. |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:27 AM
>This begs the question, what prompted >India's intervention in SL at that time? >Wasn't it LTTE?No, It was all the forces starting even from Amirthalingam!! Not 'just' your pure, wonderful , sweet *LTTE*!!! Even Amrithaligam believed on a solution based with india, almost all the military groups did the same, SO many in LTTE like Maththya! Its sad that prabhakaran is such a sad ass wanting to fight forever and kill many thamils as he could  |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:28 AM
>But which is more important? Keeping >Indians happy, or achieving Eelam?NON! Letting people to live peacefully and democratically! Thats not possible with Prabha and Pottu, so theyb need to be eliminated. |
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jughead
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posted October 18, 2004 01:31 AM
>I find it funny that you expect LTTE (which >you consider to be a Terrorist >organization) to act democratically, but is >accepting when an 'ELECTED' Government >behaves undemocraticNo, the funny problem is that you expect gov to be pure and next to god while supporting a devil like LTTE. If you were like Mr. Sangaree, you have rights to point these things. But you are a blind follower of the LTTE, you are not in a moral position to point out the undemocratic things of the governement. Its almost like a pro rapist advocate voicing against wearing mini skirts..
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chezhia
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posted October 18, 2004 03:09 AM
>> U.S and China will never Inetrvene in our affairs.. This shows How self centered you are.!! You have to understand the GLOBAL POWER BALANCE AS OF 2004. Don't keep on living in 1983. Come on !!! Grow Up !!
Why Eric Solheim (Norway Interlocutor) has to come to NEW DELHI and Update our leaders very frequently.. Why Ranil wicramasinghe and Chandrika kumrathunga has to visit both New Delhi and Chennai Frequently. Why After Chandrika visited New Delhi she had to take out the crucial ministries including "Defence" from Ranil..Think Myna..Think...Singhalese learnt the lessons and NOW they are acting smart. They use our $200 million credit line to buy OPVs (Offshore Patrol vehicles) and Choppers. Palaly airfiled is going to be Renewed very soon. INS gorshkov is going to stationed in trinconamalee soon. Why in 1997-2000 LTTE has to back off from outskirts of Jaffna mysteriously without any Noise after a single phone call from Jyodindranath Dixit to Kilinochi.. THINK MYNA THINK...
>>>Can any LTTE supporter think about these and answer ? |
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chezhia
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posted October 18, 2004 03:24 PM
ANY REPLY FROM ANY LTTE SUPPORTERS WHO CAN SPEAK WITH SENSE.. | |
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